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“Wait, Is it a Date?” Podcast Episode 206: Celebrity Crushes | Autostraddle

It actually was my personal sister’s turn to select the movie at Blockbuster and she’d chosen

A Go to Remember

. “Sorry. This might be a lady flick,” my mom warned. As soon as we had gotten residence and saw it a family group, I didn’t show my personal rips. Or my personal desire. I did not confess that We liked the film and, even more important, loved the lead. The season had been 2002 and between Mandy Moore contained in this movie and Avril Lavigne issuing her introduction record album, I’d found the two forms of celebrity crushes that could haunt with the rest of my childhood.

Star crushes indicate a lot more to queer men and women than they do to straight people. They can be our very own first expressions of queer need or our very own first expressions of sex envy. They can be a safe place to try cravings which are not prepared the real world.

This is exactly why this week we’re talking with creator and podcaster Jordan Crucchiola everything about celebrity crushes. We explore just how celebrity thirsting seems comprehensive to Jordan as a panromantic grey asexual person. We discuss the way I believe the majority of my star crushes tend to be kind of obtainable. And, naturally, we talk about the well-known more mature women on Christina’s liquid package.

But first! Christina quizzes me on a topic I’m sure little about — lesbian relationship novels


SHOW NOTES

+ the true romance novels referenced in our online game were:

The X Element

,

Breaking Character

,

Resort Queens

,

Payback’s a Witch

, and

The Brutal Truth

.

+ My personal guide for two enthusiasts revealing a wall:


+ Christina’s reference for two lovers sharing a wall:


+ listed below are each of Jordan Crucchiola’s podcasts:

An Easy Podcast

The Complete Film Podcast

Aughtsterion

Disaster Women

Experiencing Observed

+ My famous

Euphoria

recaps
.

+ If like me, you have got no clue exactly who Lindsay Shookus is,
here’s a timeline
of her commitment with Mr. Jennifer Lopez.

+ This is very brave of me personally, because I don’t remember everything we published on my Tumblr, but listed here is a link to
my Nicole Kidman project
.

+

The

Angelina Jolie Rolling Rock cover
.

+ a reminder to view

P-Valley

and review
Natalie’s insurance
.



EPISODE


Jordan:

Practically everytime Jennifer Connelly’s face jumped through to screen, each and every time i recently moved, “Oh, Jesus.”


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

(laughs)


Jordan:

Like, audibly. We, like, gasped and “Oh, Jesus,” like every screwing time.

[theme track performs]


Drew:

Hi, I Am Drew.


Christina:

And I’m Christina.


Drew:

And this is Wait, Is It A Date?.


Christina:

You realize, hold, Is This a night out together? is actually an Autostraddle podcast when I constantly forget exactly who claims exactly what, it doesn’t matter what long we’ve tape-recorded. Uh, i believe that’s actually truly stunning. And my personal headsets only decrease next to my personal mind. Therefore.


Drew:

So a substantial s—, strong beginning.


Christina:

A powerful begin. But generally, its a podcast about dating and, like, determining exactly what matchmaking is actually while we know just how to do it, similar to I find out if I understand how to hold my own personal earphones back at my really mind.


Drew:

That’s fantastic. Um, my name is Drew Gregory. I am (laughs) I am, uh… Or would you… But did you wish me to live thereon longer? I am obtaining looks.


Christina:

No, I’m simply home…


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

…on myself.


Drew:

Great.


Christina:

Exciting if you chat, In my opinion. (laughs)


Drew:

Appropriate. Um, uh, i’m called Drew Gregory. I will be a filmmaker and a writer for Autostraddle. I’m a queer trans girl too. Those are identification labels that I have. Christina?


Christina:

Yes, positively. I’m Christina Tucker. I am also an author at Autostraddle and a podcaster. And honestly, this month I really just been like a lady about town. I’ve actually just already been like—


Drew:

Mm.


Christina:

—woman as a whole, mainly in several—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—beaches, uh, inside the Jersey Shore.


Drew:

You truly have.


Christina:

But nevertheless feeling very at-large and whimsical in a manner that today I clearly feel tired by.


Drew:

Certain.


Christina:

I’m Black and homosexual, and that rocks for my situation.


Drew:

I enjoy that. (laughs)


Christina:

Cool. I don’t know the reason why i am therefore strange nowadays. We, like, don’t know whom i will be. What’s happening?


Drew:

It is okay. We’re gonna keep goin’.


Christina:

The thing I do have, though, Drew, is actually a-game.


Drew:

Mm-hmm. Thank Jesus.


Christina:

And That online game I am evaluating your understanding of one thing I’m Sure that you don’t have plenty of knowledge about, and that is—


Drew:

Oh Jesus.


Christina:

–fun. Um, it is a… its labeled as… I really don’t have a reputation because of it. I maybe should’ve thought of a name. But fundamentally, I’ll provide you with three lesbian relationship games, and you’re heading—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—to need tell me do you know the actual ones of this three.


Drew:

Okay.


Christina:

Two You will find created, you’re real. And you’re going to must select the real one and let me know what you believe it is more about.


Drew:

Great. Okay.


Christina:

Do you want?


Drew:

Im. Just what a great game.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

Right here we go. The first three.

The X Element

,

The It Factor

, and

The reality people

.


Drew:

Huh. It really is funny, ’cause might think that

The X Ingredient

would really be

The X Factor

combined with

The It Factor

, but—


Christina:

Certain.


Drew:

I wanna state… i recently… Oh, i am hoping I am not inadvertently insulting you, but I believe like

The X Element

could be the clunkiest, which means you won’t have come with that. It must be genuine.


Christina:

You are correct. (laughs)


Drew:

Yes.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Wow, I Am very happy.


Christina:

Precisely what do you think

The X Element

is about?


Drew:

Um, i believe it is about two lesbians who’re exes and find yourself on a single real life cooking reveal that’s sort of like

Chopped

, but, like, somewhere between

Chopped

and

Fantastic British Baking Program

. Like, it is on for a while nonetheless it features kind of sun and rain of

Chopped

. Um, and they’re exes and it also… its kind of like a… I don’t know when it would count as an enemies to lovers because they had been enthusiasts at some point, but it’s like an exes to straight back with each other.


Christina:

I enjoy that. In addition love that by asking to inform me how you feel these publications go for about, I’ve only generated you generate love plots.


Drew:

I favor it.


Christina:

Which is truly enjoyable. Uh, sadly

The X Element

is obviously, uh, about an associate exactly who sleeps with her manager. When we began checking out it the other day throughout the coastline, I mentioned, “that is definitely a

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic with changed into a proper publication.” Once we reveal I check the

Devil Wears Prada

fanfic, I sure have. To make certain that’s a journey.


Drew:

Hold off, but exactly why is it known as

The X Ingredient

?


Christina:

Really, in initial fanfic, the X component had been… There was some sort of reason that Miranda had each of the woman assistants, uh, consume this lady out over orgasm. Um.


Drew:

Wow.


Christina:

Can’t actually bear in mind precisely what the, the story, the backstory ,was on that, um, but in the one, in this real released variation i will say, uh, the X component I guess is, I’m not sure, just, like, that the woman assistant’s hot and she is love, “Oh, i will be homosexual today and I wanna have sex with her.” Like, I don’t know. The X ingredient has been hot.


Drew:

Good enough for me. Okay.


Christina:

There you are going.


Drew:

Round two.


Christina:

Round two.

Reduced Hearts Club

…


Drew:

Uh-huh.


Christina:

…

Splitting Character

,

Opting for Broke

.


Drew:

Ooh, dozens of seem like they could be actual. I truly like it to be

Busting Character

, but I think

Cracked Hearts Club

is actually real.


Christina:

Unfortuitously,

Reduced Hearts Club

just isn’t genuine. And happy for you personally,

Breaking Character

is genuine.


Drew:

Oh my Jesus, i ought to’ve just eliminated with my instinct.


Christina:

Opt for the abdomen, hottie.


Drew:


Busting Personality

. Okay, truly about a kind of like the feminine Daniel Day-Lewis, like a lady actor who requires the woman approach behaving really honestly, and she develops a relationship along with her co-star. But the woman co-star, it really is confusing for both the woman co-star and for the star in the event that co-star is actually love together or even in really love along with her character. And hijinks ensue.


Christina:

Truly, that’s not far-off from actual story of

Splitting Character

, and that is in reality about two stars, a person who is, uh, already been known as a bitch but is not, it is merely being, uh, badmouthed by the woman showrunner because she is on like a

Grey’s Physiology

kind health tv series—


Drew:

Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.


Christina:

—that has really eliminated from the rails. The woman characteris the bitch.


Drew:

Mm-hmm.


Christina:

And, uh, her new co-star Summer — you got that right, her name is summertime — is very charming and delightful. And considering extremely bonkers storyline explanations, they should have a fake union. Nonetheless They’re both gay so…


Drew:

So nothing happens. They do not develop any emotions.


Christina:

Yeah, so they really don’t… Yeah, nothing.


Drew:

They never attach. No.


Christina:

Absolutely nothing occurs. They never discuss it and not have gender.


Drew:

Mm-hmm.


Christina:

Yep, that is what happens.


Drew:

Occasionally that’s the way it goes.


Christina:

Okay, your future three.

Hotel Queens

,

Media Moguls

, or

Eatery Monarchs

.


Drew:

Okay, I’m gonna follow my personal impulse and opt for one that I Wish To end up being real—


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

—and hope that that’s actual.

Hotel Queens

.


Christina:


Hotel Queens

is actually real.


Drew:

Wow, I Am killing it. (laughs)


Christina:

You’re killing this. For someone who does perhaps not study a lot of lesbian romance, uh, it’s in your blood, hottie.


Drew:

Okay, i’ll today say the plot that i really hope its, though I’m pretty sure considering my personal knowledge of publishing industry this isn’t happening. But Needs that it is about two participants on a show just like, want,

Drag Race

’cause you’re not actually expected to, similar, maintain each other’s areas but, you are sure that, they stay in a hotel for the whole recording of tv show. So they really develop, like, sort of dramatic affair that for a long time can’t be consummated, but their spaces tend to be next to both so they really, like, knock on the wall structure between all of them then while they are shooting, absolutely the same as most of the tension and it’s… And yeah, that is, that is what I want

Resort Queens

becoming when it comes to.


Christina:

That sounds very hot. Um, that isn’t just what

Hotel Queens

is mostly about. It’s simply about a female just who runs motels and, uh, another woman just who runs a competing hotel.


Drew:

Sure, sure.


Christina:

Whom works for a fighting resort cycle and they, uh—


Drew:

Sure, sure, positive.


Christina:

—quite practically are hotel queens.


Drew:

Sure, sure.


Christina:

But I adore that fuel. I enjoy the slamming on the… Very, uh,

hit three times from the threshold if you’d like myself

energy, which I like.


Drew:

I was referencing

Sunny Star

, and I like our, I love our very own different cultural points, you realize.


Christina:

I enjoy all of our minds.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

I think minds are very breathtaking.


Drew:

Yeah.


Christina:

All right,

Paid-in haven

.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:


The Repayment Arrange

.


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

.


Drew:

Oh,

Payback’s a Witch

noises fun. I want with

Payback’s a Witch

.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

. And it’s also enjoyable ’cause it really is a genuine guide.


Drew:

Cool.


Christina:

Tell me what you believe

Payback’s a Witch

is approximately.


Drew:

Okay, I Acquired it.


Christina:

Okay.


Drew:

So a new homosexual witch is having difficulties in order to make book during the early several months for the pandemic.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

And property manager is much like, “No, you need to still give cash.” And she is like, “But take a look, like, all these… you are aware, like, you cannot evict myself,” as well as these various things and like, “you ought to offer myself some slack,” and “It’s a pandemic.” And the landlord’s want, “No, I’m a landlord. I hate you.”

And therefore after that she’s like… She goes, “No, I’m a witch,” therefore then she begins tormenting the landlord. Really Love story is not because of the landlord, maybe not an enemies-to-lovers situation because—


Christina:

‘Cause landlords tend to be bad. Sure. (laughs)


Drew:

But really she discovers that her next-door neighbor can be a witch and a lesbian, so that they torment the property manager collectively and belong really love on the way. It kind of has actually like a Roald Dahl fuel, like

The Twits

. Or

Splendid Mr. Fox

. Like, there is not actually, like… there is not most conflict as soon as the first conflict occurs. Like, the pair of them merely are just like, “we are both witches. We are going to torment this person just who is entitled to be tormented.” Right after which obtained gender.


Christina:

Which is actually truly attractive. Uh,

Payback’s a Witch

is about, as an alternative, a lady who’s, you thought it, a witch just who comes back to her home town where it is the sole place that she will be able to do magic—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—because absolutely like a magic lake. She has already been without abilities.


Drew:

Fun. Ooh.


Christina:

Um, and she satisfies a, a girl she had a crush on in senior school. Uh, absolutely like a complete a long time, like, secret world-building thing aided by the area and the households that run the town. They get together. It is rather nice. Fun book,

Payback’s a Witch

.


Drew:

Truthfully, of this people so far, that’s the one I would the majority of wanna look over.


Christina:


Payback’s a Witch

is extremely enjoyable. Uh, there’s a follow up to this guide, however it is unfortuitously about direct folks. Very.


Drew:

Weird.


Christina:

You winnings some, you drop some. Okay, here is all of our last any.

Trustworthiness and Second Possibilities

,

When Reality Satisfies Fiction

—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—or

The Brutal Facts

.


Drew:

Ooh. I am gonna pick

When Facts Meets Fiction

.


Christina:

Mm, that’s regrettably from my head alone. Uh,

The Brutal Reality

, but…


Drew:

The good news is that

The Brutal Facts

and

Whenever Facts Matches Fiction

, I think both are comparable thing and that’s—


Christina:

Yeah, they might be.


Drew:

—novel-length fanfiction of

The Morning Program

as well as Bradley Jackson along with her truth-telling. But I imagine whenever it had been posted, for copyright laws reasons they did need to change some details. So her name is perhaps not Bradley Jackson anymore, however it is likewise plotted.


Christina:

That Will Be an embarrassment because Bradley Jackson is actually leading among greatest character names actually set to paper, um, despite how—


Drew:

Absolutely.


Christina:

—ridiculous every little thing about any of it is. But congratulations thereon Emmy nom, Reese.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

(laughs)

The Brutal Facts

is mostly about a mass media mogul which gets control of a struggling report and falls crazy about the criminal activity copywriter, which writes—


Drew:

Ooh.


Christina:

—at the nighttime. Uh, they’ve got a tremendously nice coming together. The media mogul is actually extremely mean and like two decades over the age of the woman is. It is incredible material.


Drew:

Positive.


Christina:

And I will, because we worry really in regards to our audience, demonstrably include links to all the among these actual publications for the tv show notes.


Drew:

Incredible.


Christina:

As well as the rest of them, they will get back into my personal head where they belong. Also, creating titles of books… Like i will produce plots for a romance novels all day long. Titles is, like, actually shockingly frustrating.


Drew:

Yeah, you did great.


Christina:

Thank you. I recently needed that go with.


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

Our very own really special guest is regarded as my favorite individuals to thirst about superstars with. Very unique visitor, why not present yourself so we may into star crush talk?


Jordan:

Uh, hello. Hi, Christina. Really a— And Drew. Hello. We, I’m Jordan Crucchiola. If in case you pay attention to any kind of my podcasts, you’ve probably started because of the Easy Podcast that we performed with Christina. And as I stated once I logged to this talk, the last time we had been on a pod together ended up being whenever we happened to be interviewing Blake vibrant.


Christina:

And, when I recall, texting feverishly, uh, off-mic—


Jordan:

Yeah.


Christina:

—about wow, Blake Livelyis just in just a little Zoom place.


Jordan:

(laughs)


Drew:

(laughs)


Christina:

There she is. She is had gotten really tresses. What is taking place? She’s talkin’ to all of us for such a long time.


Jordan:

Pick Jesus, Blake. Thanks a lot.


Christina:

It absolutely was wild occasions. Wild times.


Jordan:

(laughs)


Drew:

Do you want to state a little bit more about who you are?


Jordan:

Sure, sure. Um, I, I wish to claim that i’m a person who enjoys Drew Gregory’s the things I think about to-be definitive

Euphoria

recaps.


Christina:

(laughs)


Drew:

Wow. Thank you.


Jordan:

There was certain one in which, um… Because the show tends to make myself so incredibly… Hunter Schafer is, uh, an angel from God.


Christina:

Yeah.


Jordan:

And tv show can make me extremely uneasy in the way the single brain trust originator, executor, music producer, movie director, author, gazes upon Hunter.


Christina:

Mm-hmm.


Drew:

Yeah.


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